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PostSubject: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:27 pm

I just learned how to use MOI, and it's fun. I wonder what attacks that are possible to use MOI in. if u know any attacks u can do it , tell me.
I have "MOI"ed : Khezu Elecro balls, Blangonga snowball, Narga tail swipe and Gypceros flash and a couple of roars.
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:35 am

I learned MOI just 2 weeks ago, is pretty cool indeed Twisted Evil

= all Roars
= Tail swipes *
= Earthquakes **

Pleshi: "Body check" and water attack,
Rajan: "Fist" and Charge
Tigrex: "Jaw" attack
Lunastra, Teostra: Flame Torch
Kushala: Wind blow
Hemitaur: claws attack
Los and Ian: fire ball


Evading all the attacks mentioned above has already been successfully achieved

* Haven't tried on Akantor's
** Haven't tried on Shen Gaoren
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:11 am

What's MOI?
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:48 am

KaiserLos24 wrote:
What's MOI?


Moment Of Invisibility = evade monsters' attack by ROLLING through, without Evade +1, +2, some of the examples: Roars, fire balls, water attacks, tails' swipes and charges attack.
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:01 pm

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http://www.monster-hunters.org/monster-hunter-freedom-unite-general-discussion-f1/moi-discussion-thread-20-t577.htm

Anyway, I've MOI'd just about anything that can be MOI'd, and can pull it off whenever I need to. When I get hit/die anymore, it's almost always because I got in a situation that MOI won't get you out of(a.k.a. my own ?*#! fault :]). But I've played a handful of games with much more demanding timing than Monster Hunter, so I may have had an advantage starting out.

Akantor's tail can indeed be rolled through during the tail swipe, by the way, just not towards the end of it, when it's slowing down.
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:23 pm

tried it already and it is really cool thing. I thank capcom for making it real. saved me several times already.
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:20 am

I tried it out. Just MOI'd Gravios and Plessy tail swipe. Also did on Plessy's Hip check. And tigrex charge(i needed to be near it)
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:22 pm

yeah its pretty cool thing... Like it a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:59 pm

thee121 wrote:
tried it already and it is really cool thing. I thank capcom for making it real. saved me several times already.



Its more like a bug in almost every game that is almost infixable when u want to avoid code colapses.
I could explain this but i would have to make a drawing for it.

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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:02 pm

It's not a bug.

It's like all the other rolls with invincibility frames in action games. It's an intentional function to give players a chance to get out of situations they can't get out of by healing/running/whatever. If the roll didn't have those frames of invincibility, there'd be no reason to have that action in the game at all.

If it were a bug, it wouldn't have armor skills devoted to it. And I think it's not too hard for Capcom to fix a few frames of invincibility if they don't want them there.


Example: Look at the wide library of fighting games out there. A lot of the work those developers do between installments is rebalancing their characters. One of the main things they rebalance? The amount of invincibility frames granted by certain attacks. It's why the generic Uppercut/Shoryuken/Inferno Divider attack has such high priority. They deliberately put a MOI at the start of the attack.

It's not a bug in the code. If developers couldn't do something as simple as change the properties of a few frames, action-based games wouldn't have gotten as far as Street Fighter 4/Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus/Soul Calibur 4/Tekken whatever it's at/Monster Hunter Freedom Unite.
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:53 am

Just got narga armor with evade + 2 and evade distance up, Now i can moi A lot of attacks for example rathalos fireballs etc. It's much more easier to moi screams too now Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:58 am

Eowa wrote:
Just got narga armor with evade + 2 and evade distance up, Now i can moi A lot of attacks for example rathalos fireballs etc. It's much more easier to moi screams too now Smile

If that's the case then it isnt MOI anymore cuz MOI is evading WITHOUT evade +1 or +2. Well, that's what i believe anyways Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:13 am

The invisibility time lasts longer with evade + 2 , so u can call it Second of invisibility Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:47 am

Eowa wrote:
The invisibility time lasts longer with evade + 2 , so u can call it Second of invisibility Razz


May i refer to that a moment can consist more then one second it can even withain continious hours.
MOI is also refered to whilst using evade+ and distance up.
I remember when these terms where first used and only used ingame with evade skills!

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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:19 pm

But if u have evade +2 and distance up, its still MOI ?
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:27 pm

Eowa wrote:
But if u have evade +2 and distance up, its still MOI ?


No
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:39 pm

but, you are still invisible while rolling with evade+2 and distance up, so u can still call it moi,
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:13 pm

Eowa wrote:
but, you are still invisible while rolling with evade+2 and distance up, so u can still call it moi,


nope, using evade+2 is not MOI, MOI is when u dont use evade+, ONLY when u dont use evade+1 or +2
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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Im just wondering about MOI   Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:01 pm

Evade +2 lets you do crazy stuff, like roll head-on through a Blos that's charging at you. MOI refers to any sort of properly timed roll, but it's usually refers to and is best without evade skills, meaning you'd have more offensive stuff instead, like Sharpness +1/Reckless Abandon/Attack Up/SS/SSI.

I tried Evade +2 for a while, and I really missed my offensive skills.
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